Monday, January 21, 2008

Some items which I can use some help with (Part 2)

The 2,800 year old gentleman that I have been writing about speaks an ancient dialect of Aramaic. I have no experience with this language so I am searching for a good historical linguist to confirm this fact. I would appreciate any recommendations on a qualified person who can assist me with this research.

This 2,800 year old immortal has described for me in detail a significant artifact which he called the "Staff of King David". It makes sense that the King David of ancient Israel would have a staff or scepter; and it would be a significant artifact. However, I have found limited information on this ancient artifact and am in need of a qualified historian who would have any additional information on this artifact. Again I am still researching qualified people to help me this with and any leads on some possible candidates would be greatly appreciated.


This 2,800 year old eternal owns a 2,500 year old "coin" and an rusted Templar Knight armor. This set of armor was when he served with the Knights Templar at a garrison near Toledo, Spain. Again I am still researching qualified people to help me this with and any leads on some possible historians who can authenticate these items once I can get some good photographs of them to pass around.

9 comments:

Ross Robertson said...

Hiya,
I think I read on the ATS forum that this gentleman once lived in Scotland for a while.
If you get round to it, could you maybe ask him whereabouts in Scotland did he stay?
And if you can, a big 'Hi' from me, Ross, is Scotland.
Cheers.

choriskardia said...

Fairly simple.
Mitochondrial DNA sample will tell us more than enough. If any of the mutation markers from the last 2800 years show up, he is not any older than the origin of the marker mutation.

Another way, more interestingly, is to have this person correctly identify the interpretation of the various Aramaic documents known to exist. Although there are few scholars that actually know the language, there are generally agreed upon concepts. Have him be able to translate even one accurately gives reason to listen to his other evidence. But still not a proof.

Ben Abba said...

He lived near the Edinburgh region around the 1300's

Ben Abba said...

Htank your choriskardia for the great post.

Can you recommend a good DNA testing service that could accurately perform this mitochondrial test?

Also, could you recommend a good authority of ancient Aramsic dialects?

Emperor said...

In the past I have had contact I have had contacts with reliable labs who were interested in doing genetic and metallurgical tests on weird samples (Bigfoot hair and UFO metal respectively) so it isn't impossible to get some serious scientists to do a some work on this but people would need to see a lot more before investing time and effort.

Some concerns:

* Genetic testing could look at mtDNA mutations but it'd be tricky getting much that is definitive. It might be possible to look at their telomeres though.

* A gold coin doesn't tell us much - people with metal detectors can find 2,000 year-old coins around parts of Europe. However, it could rule out a fake, as might analysis of the armour.

* Scotland in 1300? Really that just rings big Highlander bells (OK so that is 1500 but it is close enough) and your NowPublic profile is even tagged "Highlander." This could make people suspicious this is merely a viral ad for part of the Highlander franchise - there is a game coming up featuring a MacLeod ancestor, which starts 2,000 years ago.

* This isn't helped by the dozens of domains you have linking to half a dozen sites, all of which reproduce the same material - as can be seen in the "important links" section here

So what would be needed to take this further?

Some evidence for a start.

* Large high quality photos would allow for an initial assessment.

* So would a video interview with the "Immortal"

Obviously, that would be just for starters and what would really be needed is:

* A reliable independent investigator to interview the main.

* Genetic material taken for testing.

* The coin for tests (and some small piece of armour).

Clearly, before anyone starts wasting their time with that we would need evidence.

So, this is a genuine offer - if you can start providing evidence I can start looking around for people who can take a look at it and see if there is a case worth investigating.

The ball is in your court. I'll keep an eye on the blog for updates.

Ben Abba said...

Thank you Emperor for your interesting post. My comments are below.

"In the past I have had contact I have had contacts with reliable labs who were interested in doing genetic and metallurgical tests on weird samples (Bigfoot hair and UFO metal respectively) so it isn't impossible to get some serious scientists to do a some work on this but people would need to see a lot more before investing time and effort."

I have heard there are some scientists in genetic DNA analysis exist, I just have not found any contact information for any. I recently found out about Dr. Leonid A. Gavrilov who appears to be an interesting research scientist that would have some serious input in this area.

"* Genetic testing could look at mtDNA mutations but it'd be tricky getting much that is definitive. It might be possible to look at their telomeres though."

Agreed. Also, I am not aware of anyone DNA testing a living person over 120 years; much less someone nearly 2,800 years old. And I am not certain the telomeres would tell us anything. Perhaps, as part of his immortality, he is able to maintain the length of his telomeres. Or it may be some other genetic anomalies. I just am not expecting any proof here; but like you I am certainly curious to find out what is in his DNA.

"* A gold coin doesn't tell us much - people with metal detectors can find 2,000 year-old coins around parts of Europe. However, it could rule out a fake, as might analysis of the armor."

Best I can come up with here is photographs of his artifacts. I am not going to push my luck insisting on testing them. And Besides, I do not see how any of this would prove to anyone, besides me, that he is really as old as I believe he his; especially if a very rich person could purchase these items. And I have already used unconventional techniques to prove to me his real age.

"* Scotland in 1300? Really that just rings big Highlander bells (OK so that is 1500 but it is close enough) and your NowPublic profile is even tagged "Highlander." This could make people suspicious this is merely a viral ad for part of the Highlander franchise - there is a game coming up featuring a MacLeod ancestor, which starts 2,000 years ago.

I couldn't stop laughing when I heard about his life in Scotland. However it turns out to be a very important and interesting part of his story. In case you were not up on current events, many Templar Knights fled to Scotland during their prosecution which is part of his story. Also, he was involved with creating what is now St. Andrew's Golf Course because of some of his skills.

I am starting to use "Highlander" as a tag because more people use that term to find out about immortals than "immortal"

"* This isn't helped by the dozens of domains you have linking to half a dozen sites, all of which reproduce the same material - as can be seen in the "important links" section here"

Under advice of my writing coach,which I recently hired, I am creating multiple blogs for different topics. I have also been told that Blogspot / Blogger / Google will delete a blog on a whim without notice, so I am keeping backups of some of my blog entries on other websites. Eventually all of my links will point to separate blogs on different topics related to this immortal and what I have learn from him about immortality.

"* Large high quality photos would allow for an initial assessment.

* So would a video interview with the "Immortal" "


I just do not understand this obsession with photographs or videos. Every photograph can be faked and YouTube is full of videos; all of which offers little evidence of anything. My real job is in financial security and I have seen faked ids and photographs so incredible it is impossible to distinguish from the authentic ones. Whenever you hear the government saying that they are issuing Ids that cannot be forged, all their really saying is that they are creating an Id that will take a little longer for the crooks to counterfeit.

Again, I am not here to prove anything. I fully believe it is impossible to prove someone's true identity anyway. Why I am here is to say, I have found someone whom I fully believe is nearly 2,800 years old; and let's discuss the possibilities that such people live among us right now.

And, oh yeah, what more advice can you and others give me as to questions to ask such a person, can someone give me some contact info on people I need to discuss this person with, and what other information can I get out of this remarkable man while maintaining his privacy and the trust which I have painstakingly created with this man.

Emperor said...

Granted a battery of tests might not prove this definitively (although it is possible something unusual could turn up) but it would certainly eliminate fakery.

The problem is you've asked about experts who could look into this and, as I say, as things stand I am unsure you could get anyone reputable to look into this as things stand.

Granted photos and video can be faked but at the moment there is zero evidence that he even exists.

That is not a problem if you are satisfied and want to simply "discuss the possibilities that such people live among us right now" but if you do want experts to put in time and effort then they are going to need something to show there is anything to study.

As I said the ball is in your court.

Steve Caruso said...

If an Aramaic linguist is what you need, forward writing samples and sound recordings to me. I love working with unusual cases. :-)

Peace,
--
Steve Caruso
Translator, Aramaic Designs
http://www.AramaicDesigns.com

Ben Abba said...

Thank you Steve for the post! I checked out your website and it is very interesting to me; however I did not see any wayt to contact you by email. I will look again tonight.

Do you have expereince differentiating between the different Aramic dialects? How about differentiating between modern Aramic & a 2,500 year old dialect?

I am definitely be talking some more.